I have been following your conversation with Ann and thought I would comment I have a diverse group of friends many who are (or were) atheists so I have heard everything from the intellectual burden of proof arguments to the political conspiracy theory angle (you alluded to this in a colorful way) to the rock bottom Jesus was an alien the list goes on and on.
Although I was not surprised by the content of your sarcastic response I admit I expected a different approach based on your character and intelligence. I was looking forward to good discussion about a topic you seem passionate about, as a person of faith I always enjoy conversations that are challenging. I have always found that dialog with someone who thinks differently can help me understand what I believe and why ~ I was wondering if you are serious about this conversation?
Vir
BTW about Dr Y, I cannot speak for him but for me when I learn something I believe is really cool I share that info with a lot of people in hope of sparking their interest this does not always work, this also does not mean I am trying to make myself look good.
Vir, the reason I was sarcastic, and admittedly just having some fun is that so far Ann has only brought forth hearsay and conjecture. The point is, what I said in my response is no more valid than the prophecies she recanted. Neither can be proved. So how can you deny my theory and believe yours?
I don't think Christianity is a political conspiracy. I think politicians use religion all over the world as a tool to get what they want. The Bush administration is an excellent example of this.
If you have heard the "intellectual burden of proof arguments" for a long time, why can't you prove anything yet?
I leave it to you and Ann and anyone else – show me proof! But beware, do not bring me anything that has holes in it or I will expose them and widen them until the bubble of proof bursts.
Oh, I listen, but, there is this thing called "burden of proof." bits and pieces of evidence don't add-up to proof. If Christians had any hard indisputable proof at all there would be a lot more Christians.
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That would be cool.
Dan,
I have been following your conversation with Ann and thought I would comment I have a diverse group of friends many who are (or were) atheists so I have heard everything from the intellectual burden of proof arguments to the political conspiracy theory angle (you alluded to this in a colorful way) to the rock bottom Jesus was an alien the list goes on and on.
Although I was not surprised by the content of your sarcastic response I admit I expected a different approach based on your character and intelligence. I was looking forward to good discussion about a topic you seem passionate about, as a person of faith I always enjoy conversations that are challenging. I have always found that dialog with someone who thinks differently can help me understand what I believe and why ~ I was wondering if you are serious about this conversation?
Vir
BTW about Dr Y, I cannot speak for him but for me when I learn something I believe is really cool I share that info with a lot of people in hope of sparking their interest this does not always work, this also does not mean I am trying to make myself look good.
Vir, the reason I was sarcastic, and admittedly just having some fun is that so far Ann has only brought forth hearsay and conjecture. The point is, what I said in my response is no more valid than the prophecies she recanted. Neither can be proved. So how can you deny my theory and believe yours?
I don't think Christianity is a political conspiracy. I think politicians use religion all over the world as a tool to get what they want. The Bush administration is an excellent example of this.
If you have heard the "intellectual burden of proof arguments" for a long time, why can't you prove anything yet?
I leave it to you and Ann and anyone else – show me proof! But beware, do not bring me anything that has holes in it or I will expose them and widen them until the bubble of proof bursts.
Dan
What would suffice as proof to you? No matter what evidence I bring, you just refuse it. I gave you just one. You just don't listen.
Oh, I listen, but, there is this thing called "burden of proof." bits and pieces of evidence don't add-up to proof. If Christians had any hard indisputable proof at all there would be a lot more
Christians.
Dan
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